When you Lose the Track: EMDR Therapy's Cognitive Interweaves for Complex PTSD
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OnDemand Course
presented by Curt Rouanzoin, PhD and Michelle Gottlieb, PsyD
Instructor: Curt Rouanzoin, PhD
Curtis Rouanzoin, PhD, co-founder, past co-president, and Director of Training for EMDR Professional Training, was trained by Francine Shapiro in EMDR from 1991 to 1992. He worked with the EMDR Institute as a Facilitator (1992) and then Senior Trainer until 2017. Throughout the years, he has worked to develop the highest quality EMDR Basic Trainings as well as Advanced Trainings in Complex PTSD and Dissociation.
Dr. Rouanzoin is EMDR Certified, an EMDRIA Approved Consultant, and an EMDRIA Approved Instructor in EMDR Therapy. He has trained mental health practitioners in EMDR Therapy both nationally and internationally. Internationally, Dr. Rouanzoin traveled with Dr. Shapiro to Columbia on a Congress Against Violence and to pave the way for future EMDR trainings. He also traveled to Japan with Dr. Andrew Leeds to train the first groups of clinicians there.While at Hope International University, where he taught for 22 years and developed the Marriage and Family Therapy Program, he created the first graduate-level university course in EMDR (1995).
Dr. Rouanzoin has conducted more than 45,000 hours of EMDR Therapy sessions with clients across all gender, socioeconomic, and cultural backgrounds. He receives referrals for situations ranging from military/police/first responders to Complex PTSD/Dissociative Disorders as well as peak performance in athletics and theater/performing arts.
As both a Licensed Psychologist (PSY7809) and a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist (MFT8790), Dr. Rouanzoin understands the professional and clinical demands of both. His early training provided a solid foundation for the extensive post-graduate education he has received.
Dr. Rouanzoin has spoken on panels and made presentations regarding EMDR Therapy at EMDRIA, ISTSS, California Psychological Association, Anxiety Association of America, Orange County Psychological Association and the University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine Department of Psychiatry.
Dr. Rouanzoin was a founding member of the Traumatic Stress Network (TTSN) in Southern California. TTSN was the first regional Basic Training in EMDR in conjunction with the EMDR Institute. As a founding board member and second President of EMDRIA, Dr. Rouanzoin helped develop the Standards and Training Committee.
Instructor: Michelle Gottlieb, Psy.D.
As Co-Founder, President, and CEO of EMDR Professional Training, Michelle Gottlieb, PsyD, MFT, LPCC, is an experienced clinician with over 30 years of clinical experience. Dr. Gottlieb is an EMDRIA Certified Therapist, an EMDRIA Approved Consultant, and an EMDRIA Approved Trainer.
After years of working in therapy or families, individuals, and children, Dr. Gottlieb discovered EMDR in 2000. She soon completed her EMDR Certification and began using EMDR therapy within her practice. The rapid and positive results she saw with her clients created an urgency to go further with EMDR therapy.
Dr. Gottlieb’s private practice is in Fullerton, California, where she specializes in complex trauma and chronic pain/illness. She also holds an adjunct faculty position in the Graduate program for the Department of Counseling at California State University, Fullerton.
Michelle is the author of the book Balance and Change (2004) and writes an ongoing column for The Fullerton Observer, by the same title. She co-hosts the EMDR Chat podcast and has co-published the article, “Reducing the Cost of Caring: Indirect Trauma Exposure on Mental Health Providers” (2023).
If anyone is passionate about EMDR therapy, Michelle is, and she’s passionate about teaching it to other clinicians. Participants who have been trained by Dr. Gottlieb often comment that she makes complex material easy to understand and apply with a special talent for creating a light and enjoyable environment for learning.
Dr. Gottlieb is an international presenter and most recently presented at EMDR Asia in Mumbai, India, in January 2026.
When you Lose the Track: EMDR Therapy's Cognitive Interweaves for Complex PTSD
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When you Lose the Track: EMDR Therapy's Cognitive Interweaves for Complex PTSD
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- 3 professional CEs and 3 EMDRIA CEs for EMDR trained clinicians
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Course Description, Learning Objectives, Schedule
Program Abstract/ Program Description
When you Lose the Track: EMDR Therapy's Cognitive Interweaves for Complex PTSD is an advanced course intended for those who have completed an EMDR Basic Training program.
Although clinicians are trained in EMDR Basic Training to use Cognitive Interweaves, confusion may still exist regarding the usage of Cognitive Interweaves with EMDR therapy. When working with complex populations, such as complex-PTSD, clinicians may become even more confused. This workshop will help the participant not only have a clearer understanding of the proper usage of Cognitive Interweaves, but also how to properly apply Cognitive Interweaves to clients with Complex PTSD.
Course Objectives
Upon completing this course, participants will be able to:
- Describe the use of Cognitive Interweaves with clients who have stuck or blocked processing.
- Identify Cognitive Interweaves with clients who are experiencing issues with secondary gains or blocking beliefs.
- Describe at least three different Cognitive Interweaves for blocked processing with clients with Complex PTSD.
Schedule
OnDemand Course
| Time: | Course Content: |
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90 min |
Introductions Cognitive Interweaves Clinical Themes Creativity and EMDR Therapy Cultural Sensitivities Stuck or Blocked Processing Secondary Gains Blocking Beliefs |
90 min |
Cognitive Interweaves with client populations Blocked Processing with Complex PTSD Techniques and approaches Vignettes |
| 10 min | Wrap up |
| Total: | 3 hours |
Eligibility and Approvals
Eligibility
This course is intended for clinicians who have completed an EMDR Basic Training program. This course also qualifies as an advanced course for EMDR therapy clinicians.
If you have not yet taken EMDR Basic Training, please go to our Basic Training schedule on our EMDR Basic Training home page at EMDR Professional Training.
Advanced Trainings offered by EMDR Professional Training are intended for those who have completed EMDR Basic Training and are seeking more specific and advanced training pertaining to their practice of EMDR Therapy. Advanced trainings are appropriate for:
- Professional Counselors
- Social Workers
- Psychologists
- Psychiatrists
- Psychiatric Nurses
- Marriage and Family Therapists
- Licensed Professional Counselors
- Licensed Mental Health Counselors
- Pre-licensed clinicians
CE INFORMATION
This course is a CE course. Participants are responsible for checking with their state boards to verify CE requirements.
EMDR International Association (EMDRIA) CEs
EMDR Professional Training is an approved EMDRIA CE Provider (#18023), and this program is approved by EMDRIA for 3 EMDRIA Credits, Approval #18023-D74.
TRAINING LEVEL: Beginning level
Eligibility for EMDRIA Credits is restricted to those who have completed an EMDRIA-Approved Basic EMDR Training.
Continuing Education Credit: NBCC
EMDR Professional Training is an NBCC Approved Continuing Education ProviderTM, ACEP No. 7569.
EMDR Professional Training is seeking approval to offer a total of 3 NBCC CE hours for this course.
Continuing Education Credit - Professional CEs
Continuing Education Credit is approved for 3 CEs through EMDR Professional Training's CE partner, CE-Classes.com. See the information below for professional approvals.
CE-Classes.com is approved by:
- The American Psychological Association (APA). CE-Classes.com is approved by the American Psychological Association to sponsor continuing education for psychologists. CE-Classes.com maintains responsibility for this program and its content.
- Florida Certification Board
- The Florida Board of Clinical Social Work, Marriage and Family Therapy and Mental Health Counseling Provider #852 BAP-Expires 3/31/2027.
- The California Board of Behavioral Sciences. The California Board of Behavioral Sciences, BBS, recognizes relevant coursework/training that has been approved by nationally recognized certifying bodies, such as APA, to satisfy renewal requirements.
- California Consortium of Addiction Programs and Professionals (CCAPP) Provider Number OS-12-174-0627. Expires 6/27.
- The Texas Board of Social Work Examiners – CE-Classes.com meets the requirements for acceptable continuing education. Effective 1/1/24, at least half of the 30 hours must be obtained from a provider listed in 801.261(f). This course meets that requirement.
- The Texas Board of Professional Counselors – CE-Classes.com meets the requirements for acceptable continuing education. Effective 1/1/24, at least half of the 30 hours must be obtained from a provider listed in 801.261(f). This course meets that requirement.
- The Texas Board of Marriage & Family Therapists – CE-Classes.com meets the requirements for acceptable continuing education. Effective 1/1/24, at least half of the 30 hours must be obtained from a provider listed in 801.261(f). This course meets that requirement.
- Massachusetts Authorization Number: (TBD)
- Ohio Counselor, Social Worker and Marriage and Family Therapist Board - Approval from a state licensing board for counselors, social workers, marriage and family therapists is accepted by the OH CSWMFTB.
- New York Social Work Board – CE-Classes.com is recognized by the New York State Education Department’s State Board for Social Work as an approved provider of continuing education for licensed social workers #SW-0120.
- New York Mental Health Practitioners Board CE-Classes.com, Inc. is recognized by the New York State Education Department’s State Board for Mental Health Practitioners as an approved provider of continuing education for licensed mental health counselors. #MHC-0260.
- New York Psychology Board CE-Classes.com, Inc. is recognized by the New York State Education Department’s State Board for Psychology as an approved provider of continuing education for licensed psychologists #PSY-0211
- Oklahoma Board of Behavioral Health Licensure (LPCs, LMFTs and LBCs)
- South Carolina - CE-Classes.com is approved by the S.C. Board of Examiners for Licensure of Professional Counselors, Marriage & Family Therapist, Addiction Counselors, and Psycho-Educational Specialists (#4696).
- Illinois - CE-Classes.com is a registered social work CE sponsor by the State of Illinois. License 159.001607
- The Florida Board of Nursing (CE Provider #: 50-4896) Expires 10/31/2026. Do not send certificates to the Florida Board of Nursing. You must keep this certificate for 4 years.
- The California Board of Registered Nursing. CEP 15647 Expires 11/30/2026.
- This training does not offer ASWB ACE credit to social workers.
- This course is NOT available for NBCC credit.
Licensed Professionals should contact their regulatory board to determine course approval.
Certificates are awarded online after completion of the workshop. Participants print their own certificate after registering at CE-Classes.com, entering a keycode, completing the course exam successfully at 75% or better, and completing an evaluation form.
To contact CE-Classes.com, go to: CE-Classes.com
Address: 1398 SW 160th Ave, Sunrise, FL 33326, USA
Phone: 954-290-8446
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More information about obtaining your CE Certificate for this course is available at the end of the workshop.
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